If all they cover is your air fares, accommodation and meals, then their being stingy.
I know you have helped charities out, so any business oriented conference can fly, sleep, feed AND PAY for your time - you don't need to feel that your attitude is unethical or un-"Australia" - I know that you have given of yourself.
OR they could just subscribe to your RSS feed, it has a few gems in it ;-)
Ben.
Kevin Dugan
· 1 year ago
Lee - It's not being unreasonable at all. Personally I think more of the evangelists need to monetize in 2008. I'm one of them. It's not being stingy. Cheers!
Jenni Beattie
· 1 year ago
I agree Lee.
You may have read Laurel Papworth's recent and related post about new/social media expertsin Australia being continually invited in for 'chats' and a few 'ideas' then not followed up for work.
Perhaps any emerging area needs to establish credentials first before the dollars flow but I think we would all agree that we are past that stage.
Steve Lubetkin
· 1 year ago
Lee, you articulated it eloquently. Commercial conference producers have for too long taken advantage of the eagerness of speakers to appear before these "valuable" audiences. The audiences are so valuable they are paying the conference providers hundreds of dollars to be there. The LEAST the conference producers could do is pay for the talent at the show. You have spoken truth to (rapidly diminishing) power.
Bravo for drawing a personal line in the sand.
Connie Bensen
· 1 year ago
Hey Lee, I'm glad that you let Mrs. C help keep things in perspective.
We have a thing here too called 'Minnesota nice'.
good post sir!
Lee Hopkins
· 1 year ago
WOW!
Thanks, everyone, for your support on this issue --- as I mentioned, I was worried that my stance would appear arrogant and self-important.
I truly wish I *could* attend all of the wonderful conferences I'm invited to, but without having won the lottery I just cannot afford to.
I REALLY appreciate that you share my concerns about misuse and abuse of willing evangelists.
Kindests, Lee
p.s. and have a fabulous 2008! p.p.s. and WONDERFUL to hear from you, Jenni -- I thought you'd dropped off the face of the earth!
Donna Tocci
· 1 year ago
Lee - "I'm sorry". No way - you are being realistic - no need for apologies! Good for you for putting your foot down. Bravo! Happy New Year to you, Mrs. BetterComms and the (unslave-like) children!
Lee Hopkins
· 1 year ago
Mind you, there are days when Mrs BetterComms and I would *willingly* sell one of the children! :-)
Gerry
· 1 year ago
Cripes, Lee; your New Yrs resolution was obv a 'zero tolerance' policy!! yet added to L Papworth's experience, many 'experts' may be being fleeced. For eg; I've spoken in Middle East and had airfares, all accom/transfers and food on top of my full day rate speaker fees. Other conf organisers (in ME and Asia Pac) have asked me to submit detailed prez props - but when I outlined fees, they drafted in other speakers who (just may have) been able to access my proposal materials. Yet I may still do expenses only gigs, by way of giving back to the industries which I earn from. Best, Gerry
Stephen Collins
· 1 year ago
I have to agree with you 100 per cent. I've had around half a dozen approaches in the last six months to speak at conferences. Some I've done for free, as I actually wanted to be there, others paid for my costs.
The money most conferences make from charging attendees in excess of AU$2000 for a 2-3 day conference should make it easy for them to cover at least speaker costs, and perhaps even pay the speakers a reasonable fee for their time.
Attending is a different matter. I'm as happy to get an occasional comp as the next guy, but if I am prepared to pay for a conference, I make sure my selection is careful. Again I've discussed this issue at acidlabs - http://www.acidlabs.org/2007/12/27/conferences-...
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I know you have helped charities out, so any business oriented conference can fly, sleep, feed AND PAY for your time - you don't need to feel that your attitude is unethical or un-"Australia" - I know that you have given of yourself.
"Tell 'em they're dreaming!"
http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Castle
OR they could just subscribe to your RSS feed, it has a few gems in it ;-)
Ben.
You may have read Laurel Papworth's recent and related post about new/social media expertsin Australia being continually invited in for 'chats' and a few 'ideas' then not followed up for work.
http://silkcharm.blogspot.com/2007/12/raping-we...
Perhaps any emerging area needs to establish credentials first before the dollars flow but I think we would all agree that we are past that stage.
Bravo for drawing a personal line in the sand.
I'm glad that you let Mrs. C help keep things in perspective.
We have a thing here too called 'Minnesota nice'.
good post sir!
Thanks, everyone, for your support on this issue --- as I mentioned, I was worried that my stance would appear arrogant and self-important.
I truly wish I *could* attend all of the wonderful conferences I'm invited to, but without having won the lottery I just cannot afford to.
I REALLY appreciate that you share my concerns about misuse and abuse of willing evangelists.
Kindests,
Lee
p.s. and have a fabulous 2008!
p.p.s. and WONDERFUL to hear from you, Jenni -- I thought you'd dropped off the face of the earth!
Happy New Year to you, Mrs. BetterComms and the (unslave-like) children!
:-)
Best, Gerry
The money most conferences make from charging attendees in excess of AU$2000 for a 2-3 day conference should make it easy for them to cover at least speaker costs, and perhaps even pay the speakers a reasonable fee for their time.
I blogged about this very issue in September at http://www.acidlabs.org/2007/09/14/no-consultan...
Attending is a different matter. I'm as happy to get an occasional comp as the next guy, but if I am prepared to pay for a conference, I make sure my selection is careful. Again I've discussed this issue at acidlabs - http://www.acidlabs.org/2007/12/27/conferences-...